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Originally posted by little nel:
Donnie, judging from the way you think and the way you behave, it's very clear that you've really had a very troubled life. For a man, who's...maybe..35, but looks 45, you act like you're mentally retarded. Maybe you are...and if that's the case then maybe should be more sypmathetic to your plight.

(And....there's a rumor going around in private messages about you...many have said that you like to prey on teenage girls online. If that's true, I hope the hell you get stopped before some innocent kid falls victim to whatever you're capable of.)


Nel just said I was ugly, that I look 16 years older then I really am, and that I try to prey on teenage girls online.

This is all complete rubbish, and is borderline defamation.

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Since you made it public, it's not like you're hiding behind an "alias" and your picture is clearly displayed on the website; therefore, I would say you would have had an EXCELLENT case for defamation of character, if it was not for the fact YOU made it public. It was a private PM.


 
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Since you made it public, it's not like you're hiding behind an "alias" and your picture is clearly displayed on the website; therefore, I would say you have an EXCELLENT case for defamation of character, if it was not for the fact YOU made it public. It was a private PM.


This is a new low, even for nel.

Sure nel and I disagree, and I complain quite often that she can't back up anything she says, and she makes a lot of empty statements...but this is beyond anything I can imagine. Accusing me of hitting on teenage girls! What a joke!

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For the record, I think nel is lying. I don't think anyone is talking in PM about this, and if anyone is...then step up and admit who you are and why you are saying this.


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---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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PM's (Private Messages) are meant to be just that. Private.


 
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Originally posted by witilinki:
Since you made it public, it's not like you're hiding behind an "alias" and your picture is clearly displayed on the website; therefore, I would say you would have had an EXCELLENT case for defamation of character, if it was not for the fact YOU made it public. It was a private PM.
Actually I retract my statement. It's redundant. You DON'T have a case for defamation of character, since you chose to make a private PM public. You drew attention to yourself.


 
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Actually I retract my statement. It's redundant. You DON'T have a case for defamation of character, since you chose to make a private PM public. You drew attention to yourself.


Actually she admitted that people are talking about it through PM. That does mean I'm being defamed if people are talking about it and it's not true.


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---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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Still, it was a private PM. It was not talked about openly in the public forums, IF it was talked about, "AT ALL".


 
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Still, it was a private PM. It was not talked about openly in the public forums, IF it was talked about, "AT ALL".


I'm not going to sue anyone regardless. But it doesn't have to be a public forum. If several people are spreading lies about me, that's defamation. The means of communication does not matter.


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http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4

---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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It matters to the court.


 
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It matters to the court.


Check it out...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

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In law, defamation (also called calumny, libel (for written words), slander (for spoken words), and vilification) is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always,[1] a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images.


The law states clearly that any form of communication that is malicious and false can be libel. All it takes is one person saying to another person something that is a lie about another person.


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http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4

---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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I know the definition of "defamation". YOU made a private PM public. That's the issue.


 
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I know the definition of "defamation". YOU made a private PM public. That's the issue.


Even statements spoken in private can be used.

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The four (4) categories of slander which are actionable per se are (i) accusing someone of a crime; (ii) alleging that someone has a foul or loathsome disease; (iii) adversely reflecting on a person’s fitness to conduct their business or trade; and (iv) imputing serious sexual misconduct. Here again, the plaintiff need only prove that someone had published the statement to any third party. No proof of special damages is required.


Nel made a serious mistake admitting to me that she was participating in this discussion.


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My album "Outsider" has a cover of a Tom Petty song on it. If you'd like to check it out for free, go to the link below...
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4

---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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There is NO LAW whatsoever that prevents anyone from speculating on other's proclivities, in private. When it crosses the line into the public domain and implants a doubt in people's mind, THEN you may have a case for defamation. But, YOU made a private message public. You DON'T have a case in hell for defamation.


 
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There is NO LAW whatsoever that prevents people from speculating about another person's proclivities, in private. When it crosses the line into the public domain and implants a doubt in people's mind, THEN you may have a case for defamation. But, YOU made a private message public. You DON'T have a case in hell for defamation.


You need to read up on the law witi. All it takes for a case is one person, saying to another person something about me as if it were fact that was untrue.

This is a very serious thing that nel is accusing me of, and I do not take it lightly. I wouldn't care if she called me "Stupid" or "Mean" or something like that. But to suggest that I'm hitting on teenage girls...is a very serious charge that could absolutely defame my character.

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YOU drew attention to yourself


I'm not the originator of the message. I'm the one being targeted.


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My album "Outsider" has a cover of a Tom Petty song on it. If you'd like to check it out for free, go to the link below...
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4

---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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I'm not going to argue the point. You DON'T have a case in hell. You drew attention to yourself, in a public forum, with your face splattered across every post.


 
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And, it was totally inappropriate of you to make the PM public, without nel's knowledge and permission.

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I'm not going to argue the point. You DON'T have a case in hell. You drew attention to yourself, in a public forum, with your face splattered across every post.


But I'm not the person who published the words. That is what you have to understand.


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http://www.myspace.com/donniewitt


My album "Outsider" has a cover of a Tom Petty song on it. If you'd like to check it out for free, go to the link below...
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4

---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs.
 
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I understand one thing. This would not have been made PUBLIC had YOU not made it public.


 
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I have two things to say to you, Donnie.

First, you altered my post before you put it on public display. That's pretty low, even for you.

Secondly, Emmie......and Witi are correct. A private message is meant to be just that, PRIVATE.


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