I was so pleased to see that the voters in NY 23 did the right thing and did not vote in this clueless schmo Doug Hoffman, despite the efforts of extremists and idiots such as Glenn Blumpkin Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Sarah Palin to prop Hoffman up as a "real conservative".

Hoffman was completely clueless about regional issues when he was interviewed by the local press just before the election. Not only that, but he had right winger Dick Armey sitting in on the interview for help. When he was continually stumped by questions from the Watertown newspaper reporter, Hoffman bitched, "Well, it would have been nice if you gave me these questions in advance, so I could have prepared more..."

The paper had in fact printed the questions they would be asking Hoffman, for everyone to read, prior to the election. But Hoffman was too busy promoting himself on these brain dead national shows to realize this.

And he lost. Which is good.

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
Hoffman was completely clueless about regional issues when he was interviewed by the local press just before the election. Not only that, but he had right winger Dick Armey sitting in on the interview for help.

This entire election just got on my nerves, and I think it's very representative of what's wrong with the entire Republican party and the problem with our country over the last 40 or so years.

A few select insiders in the Republican party nominates "Dede Scozzafava", a liberal, instead of having a primary where voters can choose who they want to nominate. Newt Gingrinch and a few other big name Republicans throw their support behind her because she has an (R) next to her name, and for no other reasons. This happens every election day. People throw support behind candidates because of the letter next to their name, and they pay no attention to who the person actually is.

Then people realize that Scozzafava is more liberal then a lot of Democrats. She supported the bailouts, the stimulus, she supports abortion and gay marriage. So she's both economic and socially liberal. There's really no reason why she would run as a Republican, except the fact that Republicans have held the district for 100 years. That's the only reason she had an (R) next to her name.

A lot of people wised up and realized who she was, so Hoffman jumped into the race as a Conservative. Hoffman led her in nearly every poll until a few days ago when she dropped out of the race. The next day she showed her true colors and endorsed the Democrat.

Her endorsement of the Democrat proved that all along she was with the Democratic party. Either way with Scozzafava or the Democrat we would have gotten a left wing liberal. Even though Hoffman was not from the district and was unfamiliar with local issues, at least Conservatives had someone to support.

The clueless 6% who voted for Scozzafava yesterday is who threw the election to Owens, who won by 4%. Some people go into a booth and just push the (R) or (D) button not realizing what they are doing. These people come around every election and it blows my mind they exist. I'd rather someone not vote then vote for someone and not know who they are voting for.

Who names their kid "Newt"?

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Originally posted by Nice Guy Donnie:

A lot of people wised up and realized who she was, so Hoffman jumped into the race as a Conservative. Hoffman led her in nearly every poll until a few days ago when she dropped out of the race. The next day she showed her true colors and endorsed the Democrat.

Her endorsement of the Democrat proved that all along she was with the Democratic party. Either way with Scozzafava or the Democrat we would have gotten a left wing liberal. Even though Hoffman was not from the district and was unfamiliar with local issues, at least Conservatives had someone to support.

The clueless 6% who voted for Scozzafava yesterday is who threw the election to Owens, who won by 4%. Some people go into a booth and just push the (R) or (D) button not realizing what they are doing. These people come around every election and it blows my mind they exist. I'd rather someone not vote then vote for someone and not know who they are voting for.

The ones who voted for Hoffman are the biggest idiots. That guy is a complete and total douchebag. Just an IDIOT. He ran on the old "conservative values" bullshit which gives Sarah a hard on and gets Glenn all hot and wet, so the right wing echo chamber got into a circle jerk over Hoffman.

I was driving for a few hours yesterday and had Sean Hannity's radio show on. Hannity completely called NY 23 for Hoffman and said Hoffman's victory would signal the beginning of the conservative earthquake.

I'm all for diverse political viewpoints, but the problem with Hoffman was his complete ignorance to the region. He was such a pussy in his interview with the Watertown paper, which published the questions it would be asking him in advance. Hoffman spent all his time enjoying the Limbaugh-Beck-Hannity bukaki attention shower and had no idea that the interview questions had been published in advance. Then he couldn't answer a single question and he bitched that he didn't have the questions. You really couldn't find a bigger douche than this guy.

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
The ones who voted for Hoffman are the biggest idiots.

If no one had voted for Hoffman, there would have only been the Democratic candidate. So essentially what you're saying is that anyone who didn't vote Democrat was an idiot.

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
I'm all for diverse political viewpoints

No you aren't. You just displayed this in your above quote.

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
the problem with Hoffman was his complete ignorance to the region.

I don't think that was the problem. It's clear Scozzafava receiving 6% of the Republican vote is what tipped the race to the Democrat. Her dropping out as a Republican and endorsing the Democrat showed exactly what was wrong. Democrats were supporting her in the beginning, because she's a fiscal and social liberal. The Democrat was in last place in all the polls until Scozzafava dropped out. Her liberal votes went to the Democrat.

It was like having two Democrat candidates out there running against one conservative. When one dropped out and endorsed the other, they joined together and STILL barely beat the conservative.

As for Hoffman not knowing district issues, he was being elected in a federal government position that has nothing to do with their specific district. Asking Hoffman about local district issues that actually fell into state and city government jurisdiction really is not significant. Hoffman already claimed he was against earmarks, so asking him questions about federal funds for earmark projects is pretty much a waste of time. The only reason the paper asked him questions was so they could point his lack of support for the federal spending.

I misquoted in my previous post. Hoffman only lost by 2%. Do you have any idea how significant it is for a third party candidate to receive 46% of the vote in New York?

Donnie, Owens is plenty conservative...and I certainly don't mind fiscal conservatives being a part of the political equation. I think Owens was going to get 48-49% of the vote regardless, so it's not that Scozzafava tipped the election his way.

My point is that Hoffman is a complete idiot and has no business in office. The scary thing about him is the amount of smoke the Blumpkin, Sarah Palin, Hannity, etc. were able to blow up the ass of voters about this clueless joe jackson. I can't imagine you want to send kerkoffs and jackasses to DC just because the belch "conservative values" and Glenn Beck's eyes bulge and his voice squeals when he backs them.

The important and heartening part of Tuesday's election was not district 23 of New York, but statewide in New Jersey and Virginia. In NJ and Virginia, SOCIALISM was rejected in favor of freedom. Corzine, the big-tax, big-government, Obama-embraced incumbent was soundly REJECTED by anti-socialist, libertarian minded voters. Corzine got only 45% of the vote, both of the other candidates receiving significant votes were for small goverment, low taxes.

And New Jersey is a state that had gone heavily for Obama in '08, but then again that's when Obama had run as a moderate. Now that NJ has seen the real Obama and his socialist policies, NJ voters gave 25 percentage points fewer to the socialist-endorsed Democrat than Obama received in '08. That should worry you socialists Petey.

In Virginia, a state that likewise went to Obama in '08, the Democrat was CRUSHED. The Republican wisely ran as essentially a small-government libertarian, rather than doing the "values" conservatism schtick.

Bottom line, IMO - small-government, low-tax, pro-growth, anti-socialist sentiment is on the rise, big time. "Values" based conservative candidacy doesn't much register now, and neither does Socialism. America is getting back to the libertarian roots of its Founding Fathers. Sorry Petey, but highly redristibutionist, heavy-handed, confiscatory government control of our lives has been REJECTED. Now if you want some money for yourself, you'll have to EARN it, rather than being able to get the government to take it from your neighbors and hand it to you. I suggest you study the Spanish language, then maybe you can move to Cuba or Venezuela. Viva la Petey!

Oh MM come on now let's not make it personal.

When everyone screamed for war they had to raise the taxes. It still is going to have to be done by whoever.

So the Dems are socialists and the Reps are Libs that believe in corporate fascism, is that it? lol

Voting for the most capable candidate is what happened nothing more.

^Incredibly rude, cynical, and narrow-minded.

Christ, I'm beginning to think these extreme anti-socialists are afraid that national health care might bring back state mental hospitals. That's where most of these unbalanced alarmists belong. But I don't they have to worry about being scooped up and placed in a mental facility because Socialism in America is all in their heads. Just like all the other imaginary hobgoblins they worry about.

I don't think MM is a mean or rude person I just think the economy totally sucks and everyone is mad and they are going to raise taxes there is no if and or but about it.

I was in the doctor's office and waiting. They put in you in a room and let you sit forever to make the maximum $$$$. So I finished my book and put up a post it note that I had to take my ballot in and I'd be right back.

They were ready for me when I returned. lol

I never said I was a socialist, and I'm not even close. Also, I don't live in VA or NJ so I could give a fuck who the voters of those states picked to govern the state. Good for them, that's how our system works.

The point of this thread is that its a good thing that these emptyheaded hobbitfuckers in the right wing media were not able to ass-ram a fuckwit douche like Doug Hoffman into NY-23. That's all this was ever about, but somewhere along the way, you skipped your meds and wet your knickers over your made up Obama-socialist wankage.

BTW, did you know that President Obama's middle name is Hussein? You might want to mention that whenever you go off on one of your tizzy spells. And if you switch to ALL CAPS in your posts, people will know you REALLY mean business.

Your song for the day is: It Will All Work Out.

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
Donnie, Owens is plenty conservative...and I certainly don't mind fiscal conservatives being a part of the political equation. I think Owens was going to get 48-49% of the vote regardless, so it's not that Scozzafava tipped the election his way.

My point is that Hoffman is a complete idiot and has no business in office. The scary thing about him is the amount of smoke the Blumpkin, Sarah Palin, Hannity, etc. were able to blow up the ass of voters about this clueless joe jackson. I can't imagine you want to send kerkoffs and jackasses to DC just because the belch "conservative values" and Glenn Beck's eyes bulge and his voice squeals when he backs them.

I never expressed support for Hoffman. I just found it to be a really good thing that a third party candidate received 46% of the vote...considering MY party is third party.

It would have been a better thing if Hoffman was anywhere near a competent candidate and not a phony baloney values-puker.

Donnie, get to work on kicking out these dumbass douches like John Boehner and Jim DeMint and Diapers Vitter and replace them with some intelligent, considerate conservatives

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
Donnie, get to work on kicking out these dumbass douches like John Boehner and Jim DeMint and Diapers Vitter and replace them with some intelligent, considerate conservatives

I'm trying to get a Libertarian elected anywhere.

Good luck with that. Start with the pro-legalization of weed and quaaludes platform and work from there

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
Good luck with that. Start with the pro-legalization of weed and quaaludes platform and work from there

I think I'll start with the anti-war, anti-income tax platform first.

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Originally posted by Nice Guy Donnie:

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Originally posted by peter dimples:
Donnie, get to work on kicking out these dumbass douches like John Boehner and Jim DeMint and Diapers Vitter and replace them with some intelligent, considerate conservatives

I'm trying to get a Libertarian elected anywhere.

They're too radical.

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Originally posted by Aimee the Great:
They're too radical.

The Libertarian platform calls for strictly following the Constitution, above and beyond any other ideas they have.

You saying that, is essentially the same thing as suggesting the current Constitution is too radical.

Yes but following the constitution and doing literally nothing else is too radical. Most people want some form of a security net.

and they like driving on roads