Is this appropriate? Danny Roberts is NOT part of Mudcrutch. Is it appropriate he should continue to be referred to as such for an 18 month stint he did with the former Mudcrutch, over 30 years ago? Is his current band not "Danny Roberts and the Mudbreakers"?

Of course, Danny Roberts is not going to complain or try to correct the reference, being associated with one of the greatest bands in the history of rock and roll - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

If you worked less than a couple of years for a company that folded, over 30 years ago, and the company was re-established, today, would you still publicly refer to yourself as Joe Blow of insert company name, even though that company had been defunct for over 30 years, and you’re working for a different employer?

Lamenting the dearth of concerts in town, they created a series called Best Music Venues and began arranging a first show at the Polk Theatre featuring Lakeland products Danny Roberts of Mudcrutch and Jeff Calder of Swimming Pool Qs.

http://www.theledger.com/artic...e-About-Music-Gators

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Hmmm.

I think that it depends on the context. If someone was having a party for all the people who worked for the company I work for now and people who use to work here were like - Yeah - I'm Bob from Production at "Company Blah blah", that would be cool.

If someone decided that it should be hidden and covered over that Bob from Production at "Company Blah blah" worked there - I'd want him to be given some credit anyway.

In the grand scheme of things however, it doesn't really even matter. We are who we are. We did what we did. It's too bad that people have to prove it in some cases. It's too bad people boast about things and try to make them more than they were. It's too bad famous people are seen as "Better" because they are well known. It's simply not true. It's too bad people can't just let stuff go and do the best they can do today.

That was my 2 cents.

The former Mudcrutch was not really an "officially" recognized band until 74/75, with the signing of a contract. It barely got off the ground with only a couple of songs produced before it folded. That's not even a "blip" on the richter scale of Tom Petty's (et al) career. From what I've read, it appears the former Mudcrutch period was chaotic and disorganized.

If you walked out on your company in its formative stages on less than favorable terms, 30 years earlier, after only an 18-24 month stint (as did Danny Roberts walk out on the band), would the company want to recognize you as a former employee? Would you even be invited to a reunion? That's a rhetorical question. It is highly unlikely.

I find Danny Roberts a very arrogant, egotistical, and vulgar man. I can see where he may have wanted to rule the roost, and walked out when he wasn't getting his own way; i.e. wanting one of the members of the band let go. When Tom Petty and the other members of the band didn't do anything about it, he walked. Those are his own words - something along those lines.

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^Danny went way way too far off the far side for me.

When you aren't making any money a band will switch and change as necessary.

Tom brought out the Mudcrutch band he would have liked to have had. That says it all.

Danny Roberts is just using what he can for himself though, I guess. I don't hold it against him. I'd do the same thing

But he really pushed against my grain with the WAY he did it. That was just over the top.

I wish him well.

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Originally posted by FireflyElf:
Danny Roberts is just using what he can for himself though, I guess. I don't hold it against him. I'd do the same thing

I could never be happy knowing I accomplished something or got recognition on the back of some influential personality.

I don't think Danny is happy. I've met a lot of has been rocknrollers. Some are normal and healthy about it and a few are really torn up. Sad really.

Danny left took another job. End of story.

Tom kept working and got the prize very few do.

Hollywood will chew you up and spit you out in a heartbeat. Happens to many many many people.

Good luck to Danny.

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Anyway I don't think this thread is appropriate.

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Originally posted by FireflyElf:
Danny left took another job. End of story.

Exactly. Take the good (from the experience) and leave the rest behind. It won't matter 100 years from now, anyway. aha

Should Jeff Jourard be considered a Heartbreaker?

wilbury, I don't think so; the following is an excerpt from this Internet article.

"In their wake, two really fine bands rose to popularity: Road Turkey (Marty Jourard, Soar, and Stan Lynch-the outgrowth of Uncle Funnel) and Mudcrutch (with Petty and Tench). But as great a guitar-player as Soar was-and he was one of Gainesville's best, neither band was ever as raw or powerful as RGF. Ultimately, after moves to the west coast, Petty formed the Heartbreakers, and the Jourard brothers formed The Motels"