Got a new logo and banner made up.....what do y'all think??

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/AndyV63/banner.jpg

Personally, I would have a problem with it. Except for the lettering and minor detail, it's a "mirror image" of TP&HB logo.

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Uh, Ok.....thanks for the critique?? :-)

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Originally posted by SeattleRocker:
Uh, Ok.....thanks for the critique?? :-)

You're welcome. Just trying to be helpful.

I think you should inject your own band's personality into this endevor and come up with a logo that is unique onto yourself and that defines who you are, as a band.

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Originally posted by witilinki:

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Originally posted by SeattleRocker:
Uh, Ok.....thanks for the critique?? :-)

You're welcome. Just trying to be helpful.

I think you should inject your own band's personality into this endevor and come up with a logo that is unique onto yourself and that defines who you are, as a band.

For a TPATH tribute band, it's a cool logo. You don't need to define yourself if you're playing someone elses music (in my opinion). In fact, you probably want the Petty fans to recoginize that TPATH logo - that way they will be immediately drawn to your flyers around town and potentially go to your show.
If you were an original band, then yeah, what witi said

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Originally posted by Heartbreaker1976:
For a TPATH tribute band, it's a cool logo. You don't need to define yourself if you're playing someone elses music (in my opinion). In fact, you probably want the Petty fans to recoginize that TPATH logo - that way they will be immediately drawn to your flyers around town and potentially go to your show.
If you were an original band, then yeah, what witi said

Not sure but it could potentially represent a copyright infringement.

The direction of the guitar piercing the heart and the difference in the minor detail on the guitar, which would not be noticeable from a distance, would not change the fact that if I was walking through a record store and spotted your logo, I would immediately think it was Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and would be drawn toward the product. The design, idea, concept, format, whatever, is identical to TP&HB logo, only a 'mirror image'. The direction of the guitar is unimportant. The optical illusion would have already been created and I think most people would initially think your logo is TP&HB's. That could constitute copyright or trademark infringement if people are misleadingly drawn to your product believing it to be Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

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P.S. You are not Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. You are a tribute band, as you refer to yourself, playing TP&HB songs. I don't think it is right that you should try to MISLEAD the public with a logo that very closely resembles TP&HB logo? Surely, you can stand on your own two feet if you are truly talented?

Copying EVERYTHING TP&HB right down to the logo DOES NOT make you a tribute band. It makes you a "COPYCAT" band, in the first.

No offense but, quite frankly, all the so-called tribute bands are nothing more than COPYCAT bands, making money on the back of another artist's work, simply because they cannot come up with their own material. Sorry if that may offend you but it's a fact.

You openly admit that it IS your intention to MISLEAD/DECEIVE the public into believing your logo IS TP&HB, in order to draw attention to your product through the TP&HB logo:

For a TPATH tribute band, it's a cool logo. You don't need to define yourself if you're playing someone elses music (in my opinion). In fact, you probably want the Petty fans to recoginize that TPATH logo - that way they will be immediately drawn to your flyers around town and potentially go to your show.

That demonstrates deliberate and blatant copyright/trademark infringement (in my unprofessional opinion), and you could potentially be slapped with a CEASE and DESIST order, if you tried to use the logo in any wide-spread, official capacity. I doubt you'd even be able to get the logo 'registered' through the copyright/trademarks office because the design, idea, concept, format, etc. is not your own. It was hawked from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

My 3 cents.

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Dude get a life.

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Originally posted by SeattleRocker:
Dude get a life.

I'm not the one trying to steal Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' identity. I suggest you take your own advice. Get a life!

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Thanks....I got a life that's pretty damn good. A great lady that loves me....Lots of good friends that I enjoy hangin out with AND I get to play music I love and people enjoy (and not just TP stuff, I'm actually in 3 different bands). Funny, I see your other various posts on the message board and you do nothing but spew out your self righteous B.S. opinions and bad mouth people on this board who are all cool people....what's your trip Dude??....have a bad childhood or something?? If you don't have anything nice to say, I think the majority of us on here would prefer it if you'd just clam up.

You'll NEVER see my band's logo on a record in a record store...we don't steal money from Mr. Petty and the Heartbreakers in any way....if anything, we PROMOTE his music to the masses and encorage them, if they aren't already, to get into Tom's wonderful music, go see him live whenever possible and to PURCHASE his music. I'm pretty sure if you asked Tom, he wouldn't mind us using our banner. I'm willing to bet he'd think it was pretty damn cool

So until you become a copyright lawyer handling a case for Mr. Petty to make us stop using said banner, please be kind to us all and STFU.

BTW: Sorry to everyone that click on this thread hoping to just check out our new banner and found a pissing match going on. My apologies....but, hey, HE STARTED IT!!! LOL!!!

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Originally posted by SeattleRocker:
BTW: Sorry to everyone that click on this thread hoping to just check out our new banner and found a pissing match going on. My apologies....but, hey, HE STARTED IT!!! LOL!!!

Don't be asking people their opinion if you don't want an honest one.

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Originally posted by lcjones:
Just like Petty did.

I do believe Tom Petty did covers of songs in conjunction with writing and playing his own songs?

SeattleRocker can do whatever he wants but he cannot appropriate (to take or make use of without authority or right) the copyrighted TP&HB logo.

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I don't know the American legal facts, but I think Petty Thief should be allowed to use the logo, being more a local band than a national act.
May be you could change it a bit, so it still resembles to the Heartbreaker logo but adds something original, may be the idea of the thief?
That would be cool!

What about the broken heart connected to the guitar with handcuffs?

As someone doing the same as you (TPATH Tribute band) I understand your desire to catch people's attention and let them know at a glance what kind of band it is. I just think it's a little too close to the real thing. I think you can do better.

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Originally posted by Jostein:
I don't know the American legal facts, but I think Petty Thief should be allowed to use the logo, being more a local band than a national act.

By that logic, everyone in the country should be able to use whatever copyrighted material they please, provided it is done locally? And, what does locally mean? A city with a population of one million, two million, three million...or more, with an area of how many square miles...?

If SeattleRocker intended to use the logo at a "regular", local watering hole, that's one thing. But, he intends to use the logo on flyers to be distributed throughout the city and outside of the city in which he resides, reaching a very large geographical area of people? His band will become known by that logo.

SeattleRocker's intention to promote his own band, Petty Thief, using the TP&HB logo is wrong and illegal.

To be sure, SeattleRocker would not be using the logo if Tom Petty lived in the same city in Washington as himself. Therefore, the geography that separates Washington from California should not give him the right to break copyright laws.

I don't know which laws would apply in these circumstances (California or Washington) or whether there is an expiration date on copyrighted material, specifically logos, but the copyright law for Washington states:

(a) Acts of Infringement. — Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall be infringement of the exclusive rights in a design protected under this chapter for any person, without the consent of the owner of the design, within the United States and during the term of such protection, to —

(1) make, have made, or import, for sale or for use in trade, any infringing article as defined in subsection (e); or

(2) sell or distribute for sale or for use in trade any such infringing article.

(I was too impatient to sort through tons of links to find California's copyright laws.)

Depending on your interpretation of the above clauses, it could be argued that Petty Thief falls under the definition "for use in trade".

And, by his own admission in a previous post, it is SeattleRocker's intention to MISLEAD the public by using the TP&HB logo.

Washington Copyright Law

Thanx for allowing me to share those thoughts.

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Originally posted by SeattleRocker:
Got a new logo and banner made up.....what do y'all think??

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/AndyV63/banner.jpg

Can you change the straight line pieces around the guitar to tears. (Heartbreakers)

If copyright is an issue (I doubt you have the money for an attorney) maybe if you just change the Flying V into a Vox teardrop guitar......

The artwork, other then that problem, looks fine.

I think I'd feel alot better about the whole thing if you did a couple of original tunes with your band somewhere in the set.

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