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I just sent the track listings to a friend whose wife just had a baby, so he has been unable to keep up on pop culture events like the Live Anthology track listings being revealed and the ensuing controversy about track selections.
As I copy-pasted the track listings into the body of an email it made me see the CDs as individuals records for the first time...and I wondered which disc would get the most plays in my car stereo, which is, by far, my most used cd player. Right now, I'm dying to listen to "Wildlfowers" and "Friend of the Devil" on disc 2... ~"The Internet is not a big truck. The Internet is a series of tubes." Sen. Ted Stevens (R), Alaska~ |
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Honestly for me none of them. I'm going to pick up the deluxe edition for the extras and of course to support the band but I'm less than thrilled with how this release was put together in a hodge-podge format and most of the material I've heard several times over before on bootleg. I'm not a HUGE sound quality upgrade guy but from that standpoint there will be a couple of tracks that I'm gonna spin a few times such as "Century City" and some of the "Let Me Up" selections. That being said, I don't think this set is going to get all that many spins in my CD player and certainly not cover to cover. It's going to be something that I'm going to listen to once or twice to see what kind of job they did on it, experience it and move on. This message has been edited. Last edited by: JohnMill,  |
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Disc 3. Hands down. To hear another live version of 'Melinda'? From New Orleans.
 Although I too am dying to hear 'Friend Of A Devil' on disc 2. Memories. ∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆•≈•ø•∞•π•∆  ∆ In Blues We Trust ∆ • Love is the closest thing we have to magic around here. ~ Aquamarine Antidote To Global Warming = Natural Nirvana. ~ HHDL |
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I'll buy it anyway but I'm not too sure I'm happy with it either. I would prefer the Heartbreakers releasing full live albums of individual shows they did...not a compilation of random shows. Dylan and Neil Young have done this in the past...releasing full live performances from specific shows they did. To me it loses something when it's pieced together. It doesn't feel like a live album to me. It feels more like a greatest hits compilation. _____________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/donniewitt  My album "Outsider" has a cover of a Tom Petty song on it. If you'd like to check it out for free, go to the link below... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4 ---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs. |
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I agree with both statements I won't be likely in line to buy it on it's release, just whenever I get around to it, and I have enough money. Though I must admit I was never really that excited about a live release. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Enjoy Every Sandwich" Warren Zevon <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
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The Heartbreakers have released full live performances on DVD. 6 so far, and another coming with the deluxe set. As someone who doesn't own many boots, I'm loving the Anthology so far, and can't wait until 11/22 for the whole thing. Besides hits (some are disappointed there aren't enough) and rockin' covers, I love all the songs I never had the pleasure to hear at the concerts I've attended. I don't believe that anyone sounds better live than TP&TH. Just my own personal bias.   "Thirty years of immaculate stagecraft, boxed" ~ Review of The Live Anthology |
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The difference with Dylan and Neil Young releasing full shows is that the format changes so drastically. Dylan's Halloween acoustic show 1964 and Royal Albert Hall show 1966 are spectacularly different, as are Neil Young Live at Massey Hall vs Live at Fillmore East. Bob released the Rolling Thunder Review, Neil is releasing the Harvest Moon solo tour disc, etc. In the Heartbreakers case, almost every show would have Breakdown, American Girl, Refugee, etc. They put on the best rock 'n' roll show in the business, but I can't imagine anyone but the most hardcore fan would spend $15 on every tour album.... In this regard, I like the Live Anthology approach, but I hope there's a version 2 and a version 3, and just get all the album tracks and covers on there ~"The Internet is not a big truck. The Internet is a series of tubes." Sen. Ted Stevens (R), Alaska~ |
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I disagree. To put it briefly the shows they played in the early eighties have very little in common for example with the shows they played at The Fillmore in the late nineties. In my opinion here is what I would've done: 1) Expand the set to six discs (I'll explain in a moment) 2) Release two full concerts (one from the eighties and one from the nineties) - My choices would be either The Whiskey A-Go Go show from 1-21-80 or one of the Hammersmith shows from March of 1980 and either the first Homecoming concert or the final night at the Fillmore in 1997. 3) Use the sixth disc as a sort of bonus disc full of some of the band's favorite live performances over the years that were not included in those two concerts. In my opinion this would've made for a much better set. |
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I agree that the Fillmore and Vic stands were different than the band's regular tours, and could see juicing those up as official releases. However, I'd be less interested in those releases as I have soundboards recordings from those shows, which were broadcast on the radio and high quality versions are widely available.
You know what's a drag? The company they hired to film High Grass Dogs screwed up big time and did not record the entire concerts...and they were filming for two nights! I was at the last show of the Fillmore run and it was a much longer set list than what came out on the dvd. I watch that concert video almost never ~"The Internet is not a big truck. The Internet is a series of tubes." Sen. Ted Stevens (R), Alaska~ |
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Looking at a Heartbreakers setlist from 1980, and then looking at a setlist from the Into The Great Wide Open tour...they are drastically different. I'm not complaining about the new live compliation so much as I am griping that there are not more available live albums from the early days. I'd love to get my hands on a live CD of a full show of Petty and the guys rocking in 1980. _____________________________________ http://www.myspace.com/donniewitt My album "Outsider" has a cover of a Tom Petty song on it. If you'd like to check it out for free, go to the link below... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/donniewitt4 ---If it were not for Tom Petty's album "The Last DJ"...it's entirely possible I wouldn't be writing songs today. That album completely changed my life. After hearing it, I knew from that day forward I wanted to write songs. |
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It's not a CD, but I think you will want to sign up for "Wolfgang's Vault", which is free. "Wolfgang" is Bill Graham, famed concert promoter who worked with many of the biggest rock and roll acts, including TPATH. At the WV website you can currently listen to two full concerts from early 1980, one full and one partial concert from late 1979, and one full and one partial concert from 1978. These are in compressed quality, there are brief "gap" delays between songs, and to my ears the pitch seems slightly off on some of the concerts, so don't expect these to compare to a high quality live TPATH recording. But most of them are interesting and worth hearing, even with the caveats about quality. http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/tom-petty/ EDIT: After listening to a few of the WV recordings just now, the recorded and/or reproduced quality is not as good as I recalled (sounds not only compressed, and possibly off-pitch due to tape circumstances, but poorly equalized for playback). So these are not really good examples of great TPATH concerts. There was a TPATH video of "Listen to her Heart" from late 1978 recently on the front page of WV (pointed to by SingsInFrench a couple of months ago), it was in black and white but the sound quality was great. Unfortunately that video didn't remain long on the website, being replaced weekly I guess. At any rate, the WV TPATH concerts are interesting, but can't really compare to live TPATH songs well recorded and well mastered to CD. Listen with reduced expectations. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mystery Man, You believe what you want to believe.... Everybody's had to fight to be FREE - Tom Petty |
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I love WV, too bad they don't have videos yet, and thank G-D for Youtube, the greatest invention for killing time ever!
I agree with many members here that the collection is pretty random with some gems included. I always wanted to hear his version of Should I stay or should I go, was that ever on a boot or anything?   |
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there was a terrific nationally broadcast shw from that tour that had Should I Stay or Should I go as well as a fairly spectacular Runaway Trains—one that I wish had been included on the Anthology
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I disagree wholeheartedly. I don't want to sound like I'm putting ya down MM but I think you need to understand what collectors like myself were dealing with in regards to the shows on WV for years prior to these full soundboards showing up. For years we had to deal with incomplete and at time audience pulls of these concerts a number of which I always felt were some of the best concerts this band has ever performed. Funnily enough, for years there was a debate among collectors as to why the shows from the European leg of the DTT tour were far shorter than the sets the band had been performing in America only months earlier. Although I gathered rather quickly that the Hammersmith shows were edited I had no idea how much they were edited and was surprised to find that the concerts ran as long as they did. I mean between those two shows (3-6-80 & 3-7-80) we have a pretty good representation of everything the band was performing live at that time with the exception of "Luna" and "Dog On The Run". There is also a cover song ("Made To Love") that to my knowledge was never performed anywhere else although it was rehearsed during the "Hard Promises" sessions. Now we can bitch and moan about the sound quality on WV's all we want but the bottom line is you have to understand that the audience recordings from this tour, (and I have heard them all) the majority of them including the amazing show at The Whiskey A Go-Go on 1-21-80 are really really poor. In fact if you look at some of the early TP concert recordings it's not until the LAD tour where the audience pulls in general start resembling something that would be considered listenable by anyone outside the most hardcore TP fan. So given that for over twenty years all that was available from the period when I believe the band was at it's height as a live band was a couple of incomplete soundboards and a bunch of really poor audience pulls, I think we should be a bit more appreciative that we now have access to not only the complete soundboards for both Hammersmith shows but also the complete soundboard for the Houston 79' show and the complete soundboard of a show that to my knowledge was never even broadcast partially back in the seventies (Winterland 78'). |
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